Thursday, January 20, 2011
WATER PEOPLE LIEN PEOPLE MUST ACT NOW!
This is a widespread problem and if read the BrocktonPost.com article it clear that the liens has been looked at and DPW believe that these people owe the money, so if your bill is $17,000 pay up because according to Mr. Condon and DPW commissioner these are the ones who owe the money and that's why they got liens. Remember Condons job is to protect the city and not the residents. Go to City Hall and contest the bills, you have to contest the water portion based on the audit and not trusting the billing procedures, have it on record you are contesting the water portion, get it in writing and to DPW and contest the water bill portion and you want it in writing that you are disputing it. As the February 1st deadline appears I am afraid it will be too late. Your mortgage company may or may not help you. I know many people with bills of $1500 who settled for $300 and you will never see them again. People we must be proactive and contest the water portion on the tax bill. Go to Michelle, Jass, Monahan, Sullivan, Macmillan..Go to the meeting and bring 4 people, ask them to bring 4 people, there is power in numbers, if you have a problem call Michelle and she will get you in touch with the appropriate people or call me at 774-360-5950. How many bills where played "lets make a deal" instead of $2000 you owe us, we will settle for $300 because we are good guys" this happened more than you know and come out and speak up. You will be heard by BUV. We need to plan the next step and dispute the water portion and have the real estate taxes paid only. I am still waiting for Mr. Thoreson to call back and justify taking a $17,000 water bill and saying pay $4000 and we will make it even. I guess it takes a real man to answer questions like that.Mr. Thoreson have you or you staff every been to the Randolph Cinema's, I hear they have great movies. Stay tuned but be proactive, several calls in to lawyers who specialize in these types of matter who reside outside of Brockton are looking into the matter last minute and we have a couple of aces up our sleeves. Be pro-active and got to City Hall and get it in writing you are contesting the water portion only. hang in there you are not alone.
Brockton United Voices- WWW.BROCKTONUNITEDVOICES.BLOGSPOT.COM
Also make copies of everything and please bring it to the meeting, we would like a compile for our data base and also to give to the Auditors first hand. Plan the next step and if anything is suspicious document it, tape it and record it. We Will Win but its going to take your help.
Brockton United Voices- WWW.BROCKTONUNITEDVOICES.BLOGSPOT.COM
Also make copies of everything and please bring it to the meeting, we would like a compile for our data base and also to give to the Auditors first hand. Plan the next step and if anything is suspicious document it, tape it and record it. We Will Win but its going to take your help.
Wednesday, January 19, 2011
CITY OFFICIALS TESTY OVER WATER BILL ISSUE
By Lisa E. Crowley
BrocktonPostBROCKTON----City officials are taking steps to have an independent auditor speak individually to city councilors and some individual residents about problems associated with disputed water bills and are developing a type of official water dispute form that would allow residents to contest their water bill and ensure those residents meet a Feb. 1 deadline. (FOR FULL ARTICLE PLEASE SEE BROCKTONPOST.COM FULL IN-DEPTH FEATURE)
BrocktonPostBROCKTON----City officials are taking steps to have an independent auditor speak individually to city councilors and some individual residents about problems associated with disputed water bills and are developing a type of official water dispute form that would allow residents to contest their water bill and ensure those residents meet a Feb. 1 deadline. (FOR FULL ARTICLE PLEASE SEE BROCKTONPOST.COM FULL IN-DEPTH FEATURE)
Friday, January 14, 2011
ADVOCACY AND INFORMATION MEETING
ARE YOU ONE OF THE STRUGGLING WITH OUTRAGEOUS WATER BILLS?
DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WITH AN EXTREMELY HIGH WATER BILL?
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE "WATER BILLING CRISIS" HAPPENING IN BROCKTON?
PLEASE JOIN US AT AN INFORMATION AND ADVOCACY MEETING TO LEARN MORE AND TO ORGANIZE FOR THE BATTLE AHEAD.
MONDAY, JANUARY 31ST, 2011
MARY BAKER SCHOOL CAFETERIA
NORTH QUINCY STREET, BROCKTON, MA
7:00 P.M.
PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AT BROCKTON UNITED VOICES
ALSO GET IN TOUCH WITH US WITH YOUR STORIES AT BROCKTONUNITEDVOICES@GMAIL.COM
DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WITH AN EXTREMELY HIGH WATER BILL?
DO YOU WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE "WATER BILLING CRISIS" HAPPENING IN BROCKTON?
PLEASE JOIN US AT AN INFORMATION AND ADVOCACY MEETING TO LEARN MORE AND TO ORGANIZE FOR THE BATTLE AHEAD.
MONDAY, JANUARY 31ST, 2011
MARY BAKER SCHOOL CAFETERIA
NORTH QUINCY STREET, BROCKTON, MA
7:00 P.M.
PLEASE CHECK OUT OUR FACEBOOK PAGE AT BROCKTON UNITED VOICES
ALSO GET IN TOUCH WITH US WITH YOUR STORIES AT BROCKTONUNITEDVOICES@GMAIL.COM
Monday, January 10, 2011
LEGAL STEPS POSSIBLITILY IN WAKE OF WATER BILL LIENS
BrocktonPostBROCKTON—Brockton residents who have received liens for overdue water bills in this quarter’s property tax bill and refuse to pay the water bill be aware: Unless you specify you want your property tax payment to be applied to the property tax, the city collector’s office will pay the overdue water bill and interest first.
Treasurer-Collector Martin Brophy said the “hierarchy” of payment requires the collector pay the interest and overdue water bill before applying any payment to the homeowner’s property tax.
Brophy said if residents send in their payments it will go to a so-called “lock-box” and the payment will be applied to the overdue water bill and interest first.
If residents do not want their payment to go to the overdue water bill they should include a note within in their payment if mailed, but the best way to ensure the property tax is paid and not the water bill is to visit city hall in person.
“They’re best bet is to come into the collector’s office themselves and tell the clerk at the counter they want the money applied to their property tax,” Brophy said.
Ayanna YanceyCato, a resident with a nearly $17,000 overdue water bill said the word is spreading about the latest hassle in connection with their water bills following the city’s move to attach the overdue bills to residents’ property taxes—a move residents say is a betrayal of promises not to attach the liens and to give them three years to pay the overdue bills if an audit shows they actually used the water. (For full article see BrocktonPost.com)
Treasurer-Collector Martin Brophy said the “hierarchy” of payment requires the collector pay the interest and overdue water bill before applying any payment to the homeowner’s property tax.
Brophy said if residents send in their payments it will go to a so-called “lock-box” and the payment will be applied to the overdue water bill and interest first.
If residents do not want their payment to go to the overdue water bill they should include a note within in their payment if mailed, but the best way to ensure the property tax is paid and not the water bill is to visit city hall in person.
“They’re best bet is to come into the collector’s office themselves and tell the clerk at the counter they want the money applied to their property tax,” Brophy said.
Ayanna YanceyCato, a resident with a nearly $17,000 overdue water bill said the word is spreading about the latest hassle in connection with their water bills following the city’s move to attach the overdue bills to residents’ property taxes—a move residents say is a betrayal of promises not to attach the liens and to give them three years to pay the overdue bills if an audit shows they actually used the water. (For full article see BrocktonPost.com)
Tuesday, December 14, 2010
FIGHT WATER WITH WATER
BROCKTONBEAT
"We have a group of people who are meeting with a lawyer this Wednesday night to discuss potential litigation based on bills that we have kept as a group from residents of the water rally as well as inter-department memos that show a steady rate of failure within their own system" says Ford. Among the information that Mr.Ford has collected were consumption reports and emails sent to him by people and one with connections to the department saying "the solution will expose the ineptitude of those individuals running the show".
Many people in the group were disappointed that within the audit scope it didn't include specific writing that called for a group of citizens with water billing issues to be updated and also be interviewed and involved in the audit process and in many peoples minds the auditors could be biased by the water department opinion of the job they are doing and by still putting blame on the residents. "I don't trust the water department or the audit now because of the time span" said Ayana Cato. The group is still getting calls from people with water billing issues and 2 new people showed up at the meeting last night. Mr.Ford was armed with his black book and when asked what else he has in it he said "Everything that has been said by the department since this all started, every newspaper article, emails, erroneous bills, consumption reports and numbers of people with billing issues".
So having seen the bills and consumption reports, one that sticks out that was shown was for an A read that was for the first quarter of this year and for a single family home with 2 people living in it. The bill was for 210 gallons of water and that was for a 90 day period. So armed with this type of information and his black book, Mr. Ford is going to fight water with water. Anyone interesting in attending the free consultation with the Lawyer Wednesday night and for more information can call Mr.Ford at 508-584-7757 or go to their website at Brocktonunitedvoices.blogspot.com
The meeting that Mr. Thoreson was called before the City Council he said if people have a problem to call you. I asked Mr.Ford would he sit down with him and he said "I would sit down with Mr.Thoreson and ask my son who is a Brockton Firefighter, BrocktonBeat, The Brockton Post and Amy Littlefield from the Enterprise to come with me and please explain once and for all how I used over 1,000,000 gallons of water". Mr. Fords case has been out there for awhile and for the sake of a man who has had open heart surgery and has probably paid 100 times more in taxes than in what he owes to the water department($12,000) please sit with us and show us how the water department can justify these figures. I think this is a fair and reasonable request and if you cant sit down with this man face to face and talk to him with witnesses at least in good faith take a look at his bill and please explain it to him. The next Water Commission meeting is Thursday, December 16, 2010 at 9a.m. at 39 Montauk Road.
EXAMPLE OF ERRONEOUS BILLS
The following is just one example of a bill that is an Actual read, this is not an estimated bill. Double click on it and it should go to full size. The first quarter was billed for just 28 cubic feet or roughly 210 gallons of water for 90 days. This is for a single family house with 2 adults living in it. That means the house was billed for using less than 4 gallons of water a day. the average use per person per day is 100 gallons of water. Taking a shower you use about 30 gallons of water. When you flush your toilet you use about 1-3 gallons of water. Washing your hand you use about 1 gallon of water. The second bill is slightly higher at 897 cubic feet or about 6727 gallons of water over 90 days or 75 gallons of water a day. Again same house and 2 adults. Now these are actual reads and if you look at the first bill the water in 28 cubic feet is billed at $22.43 but the water out is only 82 cents. The second bill is slighly higher but still off. Now in good faith Mr. Creedon was called and told about this bill and he said " I cant explain why its so low, did you go to Florida for the winter". If a bill that is an ACTUAL READ CAN BE WRONG AND WE KNOW MORE WATER IS USED WHY CANT MR.FORDS BILL BE WRONG AND LOOKED INTO AND TAKEN CARE OF. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS AND THIS IS WHAT THE GROUP HAS BEEN LOOKING INTO. SO WHEN THEY SAY THEY HAVE A BOX OF THESE TYPES OF BILLS AND THE FIRST PERSON THAT GETS THEM IS THE AUDITOR THAT STEPS THRU THE FRONT DOOR OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT THEN IS THE GROUP GOING TO GET ANSWERS. PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS FIRST BILL, IT IS AN ACTUAL BILL AND IT CAME FROM THE SAME WATER COMPANY THAT IS OVERBILLING PEOPLE BUT IN THE CASE UNDERBILLED AND THE HOMEOWNER WANTED TO DO RIGHT BUT WAS TOLD WAIT FOR THE NEW METERS. IF THIS BILL IS SUPPOSEDLY RIGHT AND WE KNOW IT WRONG THEN I PROPOSE THAT MR.FORDS AND AYANA CATO'S BILL FIT INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS THIS BILL
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| BOB FORD AND AYANA CATO |
First it was the calls to the newspapers and the interviews from the local TV stations. Then came the Brockton Water Party and now the group Brockton United Voices headed by Ayana Cato and Bob Ford are pushing forward with legal action because of the mounting interests on their bills and still no co-operation from the Water Department. Last night at the City Council meeting they unanimously approved the money for the water audit which is expected to begin in Febuary but the group isn't waiting any longer.
"We have a group of people who are meeting with a lawyer this Wednesday night to discuss potential litigation based on bills that we have kept as a group from residents of the water rally as well as inter-department memos that show a steady rate of failure within their own system" says Ford. Among the information that Mr.Ford has collected were consumption reports and emails sent to him by people and one with connections to the department saying "the solution will expose the ineptitude of those individuals running the show".
Many people in the group were disappointed that within the audit scope it didn't include specific writing that called for a group of citizens with water billing issues to be updated and also be interviewed and involved in the audit process and in many peoples minds the auditors could be biased by the water department opinion of the job they are doing and by still putting blame on the residents. "I don't trust the water department or the audit now because of the time span" said Ayana Cato. The group is still getting calls from people with water billing issues and 2 new people showed up at the meeting last night. Mr.Ford was armed with his black book and when asked what else he has in it he said "Everything that has been said by the department since this all started, every newspaper article, emails, erroneous bills, consumption reports and numbers of people with billing issues".
So having seen the bills and consumption reports, one that sticks out that was shown was for an A read that was for the first quarter of this year and for a single family home with 2 people living in it. The bill was for 210 gallons of water and that was for a 90 day period. So armed with this type of information and his black book, Mr. Ford is going to fight water with water. Anyone interesting in attending the free consultation with the Lawyer Wednesday night and for more information can call Mr.Ford at 508-584-7757 or go to their website at Brocktonunitedvoices.blogspot.com
The meeting that Mr. Thoreson was called before the City Council he said if people have a problem to call you. I asked Mr.Ford would he sit down with him and he said "I would sit down with Mr.Thoreson and ask my son who is a Brockton Firefighter, BrocktonBeat, The Brockton Post and Amy Littlefield from the Enterprise to come with me and please explain once and for all how I used over 1,000,000 gallons of water". Mr. Fords case has been out there for awhile and for the sake of a man who has had open heart surgery and has probably paid 100 times more in taxes than in what he owes to the water department($12,000) please sit with us and show us how the water department can justify these figures. I think this is a fair and reasonable request and if you cant sit down with this man face to face and talk to him with witnesses at least in good faith take a look at his bill and please explain it to him. The next Water Commission meeting is Thursday, December 16, 2010 at 9a.m. at 39 Montauk Road.
EXAMPLE OF ERRONEOUS BILLS
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| DOUBLE CLICK TO ENLARGE |
The following is just one example of a bill that is an Actual read, this is not an estimated bill. Double click on it and it should go to full size. The first quarter was billed for just 28 cubic feet or roughly 210 gallons of water for 90 days. This is for a single family house with 2 adults living in it. That means the house was billed for using less than 4 gallons of water a day. the average use per person per day is 100 gallons of water. Taking a shower you use about 30 gallons of water. When you flush your toilet you use about 1-3 gallons of water. Washing your hand you use about 1 gallon of water. The second bill is slightly higher at 897 cubic feet or about 6727 gallons of water over 90 days or 75 gallons of water a day. Again same house and 2 adults. Now these are actual reads and if you look at the first bill the water in 28 cubic feet is billed at $22.43 but the water out is only 82 cents. The second bill is slighly higher but still off. Now in good faith Mr. Creedon was called and told about this bill and he said " I cant explain why its so low, did you go to Florida for the winter". If a bill that is an ACTUAL READ CAN BE WRONG AND WE KNOW MORE WATER IS USED WHY CANT MR.FORDS BILL BE WRONG AND LOOKED INTO AND TAKEN CARE OF. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS AND THIS IS WHAT THE GROUP HAS BEEN LOOKING INTO. SO WHEN THEY SAY THEY HAVE A BOX OF THESE TYPES OF BILLS AND THE FIRST PERSON THAT GETS THEM IS THE AUDITOR THAT STEPS THRU THE FRONT DOOR OF THE WATER DEPARTMENT THEN IS THE GROUP GOING TO GET ANSWERS. PEOPLE LOOK AT THIS FIRST BILL, IT IS AN ACTUAL BILL AND IT CAME FROM THE SAME WATER COMPANY THAT IS OVERBILLING PEOPLE BUT IN THE CASE UNDERBILLED AND THE HOMEOWNER WANTED TO DO RIGHT BUT WAS TOLD WAIT FOR THE NEW METERS. IF THIS BILL IS SUPPOSEDLY RIGHT AND WE KNOW IT WRONG THEN I PROPOSE THAT MR.FORDS AND AYANA CATO'S BILL FIT INTO THE SAME CATEGORY AS THIS BILL
Monday, December 13, 2010
WATER DEPARTMENT BILLING ISSUES UPDATE
TONIGHT CITY COUNCIL IS VOTING ON THE WATER AUDIT WHICH IS GOING TO BE HANDLED BY THE FIRM OF ABRAMSON OUT OF FRAMINGHAM. THE COUNCIL IS EXPECTED TO APPROVE $97,000 FOR THE AUDIT.
ALSO BOB FORD HAS MET WITH A LAWYER AND HE IS WILLING TO HEAR THIS CASE OUT. THERE IS A MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 15 AROUND 6PM. EVERYONE WITH BILLING ISSUES IS ASKED TO ATTEND. THERE IS NO FEE FOR THIS CONSULTATION. FOR MORE INFORMATION AND WHERE TO MEET CONTACT MR.FORD AT 508-584-7757.
THIS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 16 AT 9AM THE WATER COMMISSION IS MEETING AND EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND THAT ALSO AND SHOW SUPPORT THAT WE WANT THIS ISSUE FIXED AND THAT WE WONT STOP UNTIL WE GET A REASONABLE RESOLUTION.
ALSO BOB FORD HAS MET WITH A LAWYER AND HE IS WILLING TO HEAR THIS CASE OUT. THERE IS A MEETING THIS WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 15 AROUND 6PM. EVERYONE WITH BILLING ISSUES IS ASKED TO ATTEND. THERE IS NO FEE FOR THIS CONSULTATION. FOR MORE INFORMATION AND WHERE TO MEET CONTACT MR.FORD AT 508-584-7757.
THIS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 16 AT 9AM THE WATER COMMISSION IS MEETING AND EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGED TO ATTEND THAT ALSO AND SHOW SUPPORT THAT WE WANT THIS ISSUE FIXED AND THAT WE WONT STOP UNTIL WE GET A REASONABLE RESOLUTION.
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